tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3191316279215320372.post6966313222833614868..comments2023-11-02T11:18:16.047-04:00Comments on EnviroPolitics Blog: Christie urged to sign bill banning frack-water treatmentFrank Brillhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17285491719186925507noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3191316279215320372.post-78648590341295457802012-07-06T11:04:07.009-04:002012-07-06T11:04:07.009-04:00If NJ wants to stop the import of fracking fluids ...If NJ wants to stop the import of fracking fluids for treatment in the state then they should stop sending their solid waste (garbage) to landfills in PA and OH.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3191316279215320372.post-71627092933886026152012-07-05T23:05:22.297-04:002012-07-05T23:05:22.297-04:00Hello,
Valuable information! The fracking fluid i...Hello,<br /><br />Valuable information! The fracking fluid is trucked out of state, which is not only a hazardous material to have on the roads, but it also very costly for trucking companies.Waste-water treatment plants had been accepting fracking fluid from Marcellus Shale drillers and partially treating it, but the D.E.P. It recently deemed that practice environmentally unsafe, and banned those plants from accepting the fluid. Thanks.Biofoulinghttp://www.merusonline.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3191316279215320372.post-30093791073544022332012-07-05T08:23:27.019-04:002012-07-05T08:23:27.019-04:00New Jersey has tried to ban out of state wastes be...New Jersey has tried to ban out of state wastes before and lost in the courts because these types of laws violate the Commerce Clause of the Constitution. The Supreme Court struck down a New Jersey effort to prohibit wastes from Philadelphia being disposed in the state (Philadelphia v. New Jersey (1976)). Several other states have also had these types of laws voided for the same reason. If signed, this one will surely be struck down. But facts and reality rarely stop a politician from posturing to get votes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3191316279215320372.post-20940387779858785752012-07-04T16:00:59.393-04:002012-07-04T16:00:59.393-04:00Interesting technical discussion. However the lega...Interesting technical discussion. However the legal implications are what will drive this. <br /><br />Years ago a mid western state tried to keep out of state waste from coming to its landfills. It was struck down by the courts who said that under the interstate commerce clause the state couldn't do that. I suppose the NJ legislature can pass and the Gov can sign but the courts will probably rule that only congress has the power to regulate interstate commerce. <br /><br />My guess is that even if signed, it will eventually get struck down by the Supreme Court.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3191316279215320372.post-67549849733291371012012-07-04T10:11:15.480-04:002012-07-04T10:11:15.480-04:00The problem with "fracking wastewater" (...The problem with "fracking wastewater" (and really, it's primarily produced water from gas drilling) is not "toxic materials." It's salt. And wastewater treatment facilities are not designed to remove salt. All that a treatment facility does is dilute the salt, and consequently the salinity of the receiving stream rises.<br /><br />The environmentally sound manner of disposing of saline wastewater from drilling operations is deep-well injection into saline formations. So long as that technology is used, there is no major problem with its management. I'd support a ban on dumping large quantities of salty wastewater into the state's municipal treatment works.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13678105812354725137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3191316279215320372.post-47378923374628051952012-07-03T10:51:57.668-04:002012-07-03T10:51:57.668-04:00A lot of the wastewater generated from the flowbac...A lot of the wastewater generated from the flowback is treated before it is disposed of. All of the landfills in NJ receive waste from all over NJ which are equally toxic, if not worse. I think a choice must be made - if you want natural gas as a clean source of energy, then don't argue against fracking. If you're unhappy about oil prices, don't argue against fracking. If you're going to give me solar or wind energy as another option - perhaps you should consider the amount of waste and toxic chemicals that are made during those manufacturing processes also.<br /><br />It's not realistic to want these things without understand that something has to give. If you cut out the industry, then jobs are lost and people will complain about that. It's all related and I think a bill like this is useless.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3191316279215320372.post-61537739811826068542012-07-03T07:40:17.960-04:002012-07-03T07:40:17.960-04:00Anonymous, the problem is those fracking PA and TX...Anonymous, the problem is those fracking PA and TX are not assuming the risk. They pollute and then move on. The environmental cost of their reckless activities will be assumed by future generations. Why should NJ or anyone suffer while they operate with no oversight?Cliff Goudeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07477448236348903946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3191316279215320372.post-47412736715124049412012-07-02T21:21:36.233-04:002012-07-02T21:21:36.233-04:00PA & TX are perfectly able to deal with their ...PA & TX are perfectly able to deal with their own fracking waste water problems. If it's such a good deal for NJ, why do PA & TX want to get rid of it? Sharing the wealth? Please. <br /><br />Gov. Christie: The only way to truly safeguard NJ's water is to keep the toxic sludge out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3191316279215320372.post-79953680045505157932012-07-02T13:04:31.958-04:002012-07-02T13:04:31.958-04:00If New Jersey bans water treatment I guess we in P...If New Jersey bans water treatment I guess we in PA and TX should ban exports of gas to NJ. Let your price go up for being NIMBYs that use a heck of a lot of gas from other places for your comforts while letting others assume the risk.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com